[pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

Jeremy Loukinas sunadmin at gmail.com
Fri Mar 22 19:25:22 CET 2013


I also have redhatadmin@ if that helps.


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, francis picabia <fpicabia at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jeremy Loukinas <sunadmin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Solaris 11 is a much better alternative for a number of reasons. I work
> for
> > a large organization that has 1000's of Redhat / Suse linux servers.
> > Managing them is a mess, yes they are easier to patch yum update etc..
> but
> > with Solaris 11 you have pkg update? It couldn't be easier.
> >
> > Suse and redhat just got finished racking us over the coals for our
> "free"
> > linux to the tune of about $500,000.
>
> We pay less than $200 per Dell for annual hardware maintenance.  Oracle
> is $1000 per server for hardware maintenance.  We pay $60/year for
> Redhat update access (for University).  Same update access plus
> support from Oracle is another $1000/year.  There is no option for only
> software updates with Oracle.
>
> It costs us $2000/year per Sun, or roughly $260 per Dell.
>
> For a cash strapped small University, the best choice for our
> future is Linux.
>
> > The trick with Linux is you have no rollback capability if your patches
> go
> > to shit like you have with solaris live upgrade.
>
> Not true.  There is such a thing as yum downgrade.
>
> Live upgrade on Solaris is great.  However, why is it needed?
>
> I've rarely seen Linux kernel updates give me a system which
> bombs on start up, and it is very easy to select the last kernel
> version from grub menu.  Whereas I've had two downtime experiences
> with Solaris upgrades in the last 2 years.  Not all of us can
> afford the luxury of spare disks and pools for live upgrade - for us,
> the system is usually needed with the capacities for which we bought it.
>
> On top of this, Linux doesn't need a live upgrade type of install for
> maintenance
> releases.  Any and all updates until the next version of the OS can
> be done with package manager updates.  Solaris holds back many
> updates to be done only via the next U level, so in essence, the
> architecture needs live upgrade to save itself from itself.  Live upgrade
> is important because in a Solaris update, you never know
> what you're going to get.
>
> Finally, sticking with the original theme of this thread, Redhat's
> tool to register for software updates is still provided with the OS.
>
> > Linux is junk meant for running startup dot coms in someone's basement.
>
> I guess that would be the opinion to have once you've
> committed yourself to having an email of "sunadmin".
>
> As the trends in IT prove, that myth is held by very few today.
>
>
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